If you don’t trust Microsoft, you should probably stop reading. If you don’t trust Microsoft, you probably won’t trust OneDrive with your files.
If you’ve decided you’re never going to trust “the cloud”, you can probably stop reading now as well. There’s no getting around the fact that OneDrive is, at its heart, a cloud-based service.
If you have Windows 10, or especially if you have Microsoft’s Office 365, you already have OneDrive available to you. (If not, it’s easy to get.) If you’re interested in learning about ways you can put OneDrive to use, read on.
I’m convinced that OneDrive is one of Microsoft’s most under-appreciated services.
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What is OneDrive?
OneDrive is very similar to other cloud storage services, like DropBox, Google Drive, Box, and others.
At its most basic, it’s simply file storage space on Microsoft’s servers (aka “in the Cloud”1). By storing files there, you can access them anywhere, from almost any device with an internet connection.
You can, of course, access your OneDrive files by visiting onedrive.com. Once you log in with your Microsoft account, all the files and folders you’ve added to OneDrive will be available to you, along with the ability to create more folders and upload more files.
While OneDrive is, in one sense, nothing more than an online repository for the files and folders you care to share, its true power comes from using the OneDrive app, rather than just visiting the website. Using OneDrive on your PC, you designate a folder (typically “C:\Users\<username>\OneDrive”) as your OneDrive folder. This folder contains a copy of all the files you have stored in OneDrive.
And it keeps that folder in sync with what’s stored in the cloud.
That means when you add or change a file or folder within your PC’s OneDrive folder, it’s automatically uploaded to the OneDrive cloud servers. Similarly, if you upload a file (or folder) to the OneDrive cloud servers — perhaps using the OneDrive web site to do so — that file or folder is automatically downloaded to your PC running the OneDrive app.
That very simple concept — automatically keeping your PC’s OneDrive folder in sync with the files stored online — enables some incredibly powerful features.
1: Off-site backup
One of the rules of thumb for a comprehensive backup strategy is that you have important files backed up “off site”, meaning stored in some other physical location. That way, if your home suffers a catastrophe that destroys your computer and the backups you keep there, you’ll still have an additional copy of everything important elsewhere.
It’s a perfect scenario for the cloud, and a perfect way to begin to use OneDrive.
Simply copy the files you want to back up into the OneDrive folder on your PC, and OneDrive will automatically upload them to the cloud: instant2 off-site backup. I used this technique extensively on a recent overseas trip: each night I copied my day’s photos into a OneDrive folder, and the pictures were automatically uploaded and backed up.
2: Continuous backup
It’s simple to copy files to your OneDrive folder in order to get them backed up — but it seems like that could be easy to forget.
Instead, let the computer do it for you: move your working folder into your OneDrive folder.
For example, configure your word processor to create new documents within your OneDrive folder by default. Now every new document you create will automatically be uploaded. Every update to the document will be automatically synchronized to online storage without your needing to think of a thing.
I do this all the time. The default storage location I use for screenshots is in my OneDrive folder. My default documents folder is a subfolder of my OneDrive folder. Without having to lift a finger, any documents I edit or create there are backed up online.
3: Copying files between machines
This is almost embarrassing, but it’s the reality of the state of networking today: it sucks. It should be trivial to connect two computers together on a local area network (LAN) and use that connection to quickly and easily copy files from one to the other. Sadly, many people resort to copying files to USB sticks and physically transferring those between machines, because it’s easier than trying to get networking to work.
OneDrive to the rescue.
Install the OneDrive app on both machines and configure it to use the same Microsoft account on both. Both machines will automatically synchronize with the OneDrive servers.
Place a file into the OneDrive folder on PC #1. The OneDrive app will dutifully upload it to the OneDrive cloud servers. The second PC will notice there’s a new file in your cloud OneDrive copy and download it.
You’ve just copied a file from machine to machine without the hassle of figuring out how to network them to each other. Bonus: the machines don’t need to be in the same place. OneDrive will transfer the files whether the machine is in the next room or on a completely different continent, as happened on my overseas trip. The photos I uploaded in the Netherlands automatically downloaded to my computers back home. A bonus bonus: you’re not limited to two machines.
4: Copying work environments between machines
Earlier, I mentioned that I save screenshots into a folder in my OneDrive. I don’t do it to back them up; I do it because the machine I’m taking the screenshot on is often not the machine on which I’m doing my work.
For example, I’ll often take screenshots in a fairly pristine Windows 10 environment3. By automatically saving those screenshots in OneDrive, they show up on my other machines within moments — including the Mac Pro I’m writing this article on. Or the Dell laptop in the other room. Or the MacBook Pro with which I travel. Without thinking about it at all, I can work on any of those machines at my convenience, and while it may sound a little far-fetched that I’d need my screenshots on upwards of four machines, it actually comes in more handy than you might think.
If you have multiple computers — particularly if you have multiple different computers in different locations, such as work and home –OneDrive is a convenient way to automatically replicate the files you work on to any of the locations or machines you might want to work.
5: Sharing files with others
You can create a publicly-accessible link to any file or folder you have stored in OneDrive. This makes it a great way to share files with others without resorting to emailing huge or multiple attachments.
For example, here’s a link to an image I have stored within my OneDrive.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AgsM3hkLexJ-gbpjSdOvJBWSDfodLg
Anyone can click on it to see the picture — no OneDrive or Microsoft account is needed.
There are even links to “download the original”, so whoever has the link can download the actual image file to their computer.
I wish more people would use this technique rather than sending bloated emails.
6: Collaborating with others
I mentioned you can share a link to a folder as well. While that link can be public, as in the example of the image above, it can also be specific to an individual recipient using their own Microsoft account. You can grant the recipient the ability to edit or add to what’s in that folder.
This is a recipe for collaboration.
For example, let’s say you and I are working on a project and need to collaboratively create a document. We can each take turns working on the same document in a shared OneDrive folder. Depending on the document type and the document-editing program’s abilities, we may even be able to work on the document simultaneously.
I use this technique extensively with my assistants. We each have shared cloud folders4 in which we have documents accessible to each of us. It’s a key component of how we pull together The Ask Leo! Newsletter each week.
Sensitive data on OneDrive
Whenever I talk about cloud storage, I immediately get pushback relating to security, breaches, hacking, and all other possible forms of data compromise.
There are three approaches to dealing with that:
- The “head in the sand” approach: don’t use the services at all, missing out on the functionality I’ve described above entirely.
- The “limit your exposure” approach: don’t put anything sensitive into the cloud. (Spoiler: you almost certainly already do so on a regular basis.)
- The “I’ve got this” approach: use encryption.
I use a combination of the latter two.
Plenty of items in my OneDrive are simply files I’ve placed there. Should someone hack my Microsoft account5, or should the OneDrive servers become compromised, those files will be visible. Oh well. My approach to this is that for these files, “oh well” is the appropriate answer.
I also use Cryptomator (and previously6, BoxCryptor, which operates in the same fashion) to encrypt anything I consider to be sensitive. This allows me to make use of almost all the features and functionality built into OneDrive, while being confident my files will be accessible only to me. (It turns out that nearly two-thirds of my OneDrive usage is in encrypted form.)
Naturally, other encryption tools are also useful, including VeraCrypt, encryption provided by various zipping utilities, and others. Tools like Cryptomator and BoxCryptor, however, automate the process of encrypting individual files, making them perfect for use with cloud services like OneDrive.
You probably already have OneDrive
Microsoft has been promoting OneDrive, most notably by including it in Windows 10. You automatically have 5GB of free storage with your Microsoft account. If you happen to have Office 365 — Microsoft’s subscription service for the Office programs — you have up to five terabytes of OneDrive storage (1TB per user for up to five users). Compared to other service’s premium storage plans, it’s almost worth getting Office 365 for the storage alone!
There’s more to OneDrive I’ve not covered here: things like mobile apps that allow you to access your files anywhere, expiring sharing links, automated photo backup from mobile devices, the OneDrive Recycle Bin, and still more.
As I said, it may be Microsoft’s most overlooked service.
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Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
“Simply copy the files you want to back up into the OneDrive folder on your PC, and OneDrive will automatically upload them to the cloud: instant2 off-site backup.”
This is good advice, but for most people, wouldn’t it be more practical to move the files instead of copying them to save space on the drive? I’ve moved my Documents, Pictures, Music, Videos and Downloads folders into One Drive and I don’t keep my user created or downloaded files anywhere else, except of course, for my backups.
Leo
That tip was intended to be the simplest of all. Copy the files over and nothing else has to change. The second idea addresses your approach in a more permanent way. But, indeed, with thought, moving might often be preferable.
Ronny
I’m glad OneDrive has worked well for you but that has not been my experience. I work for a large organization and they got each of us (I think) 2TB of OneDrive space. They have it set up as a hard drive on our computers. I tried to copy a massive amount of data to OneDrive using the command line, something like:
XCOPY D:\*.* O:\ /S /V
It copied the entire file structure but failed after coping a few files. However, when I try that with OneDrive, it aborts and tells me the subdirectories already exist. It looks like the only thing I can do is go in and manually delete all these subdirectories. OneDrive will not let you delete subdirectories with anything in them (including other directories) so, if I want to clean this up, I have to go in and manually delete the files in each subdirectory one-at-a-time and there are hundreds of subdirectories.
You would think that the company that developed the DOS command line would create a product that works well with that command line.
Ronny
Leo
I’ve never experienced what you describe. I can copy in, and delete, files, folders and folders with files and folders without problem, via the command line or Windows File Explorer. I’m not sure what to tell you, but from my perspective it works well with the command line.
Ray Smith
“Continuous backup…..Every update to the document will be automatically synchronized to online.”
Backup or synchronization? The words really shouldn’t be used interchangeably.
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
Why not? In this case, the synchronization is being used to back up your files.
Ray Smith
Because, depending on how it’s set up, the cloud copy of a file will automatically be deleted when the local copy is deleted. In its default state, OneDrive is a sync tool, not a backup solution. Failure to understand that distinction has caused a not inconsiderable number of people to lose data. As I said, the terms ‘backup’ and ‘synchronization’ shouldn’t be used interchangeably.
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
Accidentally deleted files are kept in the deleted files folder in OneDrive for a month. Of course, you should never rely on only one backup. Using only one method of backup is a recipe for eventual disaster, no matter which method that is. As Leo has said often, cloud backup is an additional backup not a replacement for a system image backup.
Ray Smith
“Accidentally deleted files are kept in the deleted files folder in OneDrive for a month.” – The thing is, sometimes people don’t realize that until it’s too late. As I said, it’s important to make the distinction between sync and backup.
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
That’s why I said you shouldn’t use cloud storage as you primary backup. It still makes a great secondary backup.
Ray Smith
Yup but, again, it’s critical to differentiate between sync and backup. They’re not the same thing and the terms should not be used interchangeably. For example, I know somebody who deleted the local copies of their data, including their backups, to free up space on their computer and external hard drive. They thought this was okay as they also had a cloud backup. However, their cloud backup was actually a sync and so the cloud data was deleted when the local data was deleted. Sadly, they didn’t realize this until it was too late.
(Fr.) William Loring
Could you explain how to create the sharing link that you used for the Sidney opera house? Specifically, how do I identify my one-drive and my file or folder?
Thanks
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
In File Explorer, right-click on the file you want to link to. Select “Share a OneDrive link”. You can then embed that URL using the code for an embedded photo. I tried to paste the code for a embedding a photo in html but the comment was interpreted as html code and wouldn’t show up.
Leo
Using Windows File Explorer you locate the file in your OneDrive folder on your PC, right click it, and the option to create a link is there.
James B
In the OneDrive app, right click on the file in your OneDrive folder and select “Share a OneDrive link.” Watch the notification area (down by the clock) and it will tell you when it has created the link. Now just paste that link into a document, email, Facebook post, etc.
Alternatively, you can right click on the file and select “More OneDrive sharing options.” This will load up the OneDrive web interface where you will have the additional options (expiring links, allow editing, manage permissions, etc.).
James B
Can I add a seventh very useful thing you can do with OneDrive? Remote Access. If you log in to OneDrive using the web app, on any computer, and click the PCs link, it will list all the computers where the OneDrive app is installed and you are logged into OneDrive (obviously requiring you to have the computer on and logged in to Windows). You can then select a computer and you will be able to browse all files, folders, and drives (including mapped drives) on that computer. So if you forgot to upload an important file to OneDrive, you can just remotely access it.
Of course you should heed Leo’s other warnings about “if it’s not physically secure, it’s not secure” because if someone breaks into your house, do you want them to be able to walk up to your computer and start copying your files, just for the convenience of being able to remotely access your files? One time I needed to do this, I had to call my wife and ask her to turn the computer on so I could copy my file. Logging into Windows and then locking the screen would also work to provide more protection for your running computer when you are not at home (or work).
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
Great tip. Before you can do this, you have to enable this feature on the computer you want to be able to download from.
Right-click on the OneDrive folder.
Click “Settings” from the pop-up menu.
Click the Settings tab if it isn’t already selected.
Check the box “Let me use OneDrive to fetch any of my files on this PC”
It’s also a good idea to make sure “Start OneDrive automatically when I start my computer.” is checked.
Helen Anderton
When I got Office 365, I thought One Drive would be a great additional backup tool. BUT – what they fail to tell you is that the home edition, whilst claiming to give you 1Tb of storage, actually has a file limit of 20,000 files. Only the “Enterprise” version has more, apparently. I wanted to put all my files including stored photos (around 50,000 files total) onto One Drive and I could not understand why it kept failing. It took many hours of Googling for answers, and several unsuccessful contacts with the Microsoft Helpdesk, before someone there figured it out! They claim that they tell you this limitation in the documentation, but I have yet to find it.
I suppose I could, if I had the time and energy, sort out which files and photos I want to sync, but frankly I don’t, and then I’d have to remember which files to store where on my PC. Much simpler to keep all my files on my PC and back up the old fashioned way – unless you can suggest an alternative?
Leo
I’d love to see documentation of this limit. I’ve never heard of it, myself.
Gillian A
In case it helps, I found this – https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/2933738/restrictions-and-limitations-when-you-sync-sharepoint-libraries-to-you – Last Updated: Jun 29, 2017
(excerpt)
You can sync up to 20,000 items total across all synchronized libraries. This includes OneDrive for Business libraries, Team Site libraries, or both. This includes folders and files. Separately from the overall sync limit, there are limits to the number of items that can be synchronized for each library type.
You can sync up to 20,000 items in a OneDrive for Business library. This includes folders and files.
You can sync up to 5,000 items in a SharePoint library. This includes folders and files. These are libraries that you find on various SharePoint sites, such as team sites and community sites, libraries that other people created, or that you created from your Sites page. You can sync multiple SharePoint libraries. Any team sites that you sync will also count against the overall 20,000 item limit across all synchronized libraries.
Helen Anderton
And here is a frustrated user like myself:
https://onedrive.uservoice.com/forums/262982-onedrive/suggestions/18713626-20-000-file-limit
Needless to say he didn’t get a Microsoft response!
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
I just checked my OneDrive folder and it contains 39,182 files. One commenter on this article synchronized over 52,000 files on his computer. I’ve read about the 20,000 file limitation, but that limitation is for Share Point. Leo, as an avid photographer, you must have way over 20,000 files on OneDrive.
Leo
Actually the majority of my photos aren’t on OneDrive — I upload directly to static cloud storage for backup (Amazon S3), and use Flickr for publication. But, indeed, it appears I have over 50,000 (perhaps as high as 70,000) files in my OneDrive, all synchronizing nicely. The way I read the Microsoft article it’s a SharePoint limitation, not a OneDrive limitation.
Reverend Jim
I prefer Resilio Sync (RS) to OneDrive. With RS I can keep multiple PCs in sync without relying on the availability of cloud storage. Computers sync data across the shortest available path so if I use it to keep (for example) my pictures folder in sync with the same folder on my wife’s computer (and my backup server), all traffic occurs within my home. Storage capacity is determined, not by current Microsoft policy (subject to change) but by whatever storage I have available.
Based on Bittorrent technology, I can also use it to share very large files between my computer(s) here in Canada and my son’s computer(s) in England. When changes are made to synched files, only the changed portions need to be resynched. Synching suspends/resumes on the availability of the computers. Transmitted data is encrypted before leaving the sending computer and decrypted on the receiver. Unencrypted data never appears on the net.
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
Thanks for the heads-up on that program. I’ll stick with OneDrive to sync my machines as it seems bit torrent technology would require both machines to be on at the same time to sync, but I can definitely think of scenarios where that technology would be useful.
Reverend Jim
PS: I find it extremely annoying that no matter how many times I disable/hide OneDrive, Microsoft keeps putting it back after large updates. Years ago, Dave Barry, writing about Windows, created a fake Microsoft dialog box that stated “I see you have pressed the space bar. Do you want to make Internet Explorer your default browser?” It was funny at the time. Not so much now.
John at the Falls
It is not a matter of trusting Microsoft or any other free cloud provider. It is a matter of understanding their business model and how they pay for the cost of providing that “free” service to you.
Tell me that and then I will trust them.
Lets talk about “Free” VPN services next.
Mining Big Data, even keeping it anonymous, is a very low cost way to extract value.
Ron Iannetta
All of the uses for OneDrive enumerated above & also other cloud providers are great. Unfortunately there are some of us who have data caps on our Internet connection so using OneDrive or any other cloud storage is not really an option. My data cap for my satellite broadband provider is 10G/month & the April Windows 10 update just used ~1/4th of it as an example. So for us, it’s local image backup on a regular basis using Reflect or some other tool.
If you think I am jealous & have data envy of those folks who don’t have data caps, you are correct. 🙂
Helen Anderton
Spot on Ron – and if, like me, your transfer bit rate is about 2Mps, then One Drive is simply not practical (quite apart from the 20,000 file limit I mentioned in my previous post, earlier today).
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
You can save bandwidth and disk space by only downloading the files you need on demand.
Right-click on the OneDrive cloud icon in the System Notification area of the Taskbar.
Click “Settings”
Next click the “Settings” tab
Tick the box which says, “Save space and download files as you use them”
David Phipps
I used OneDrive for creation and storage of all documents ( 52,130 files in 3,672 folders). Then my computer died, suddenly and totally. I bought a new computer and set up OneDrive. The next morning, I discovered that all of my files and folders from the old computer had been automatically downloaded to the new computer from the cloud copy. All in right places, all accessible (to the extent I can prove so far). I don’t know how to find out what version of OneDrive I have, but I do know it was free. It came with Windows 10. I think that means I have the Home edition.
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
I recently got a new computer. I still have the old one but as soon as I started using the new one all my files were one it in a short time. At first this speed seemed strange but OneDrive has an amazing feature. It first downloads the folders and all of the file names. If your file hasn’t downloaded yet, it downloads the file on demand when you open it. A normal WOrd document or small PDF takes a second or 2 to download. It might be a bit frustrating if it’s a large file but how much more frustrating if you can’t control which files get downloaded. You’d have to go to the OneDrive website and download it manually. It even gives you the option to pause syncing and only download on opening the file to save bandwidth and disk space.
charles campi
One thing OneDrive doesn’t have, I think, is a feature that automatically stores an original copy of any file that has been changed or modified to a special folder where it is stored for one month.
In the case of a ransomware attack, once all your files have been encrypted, you can just get rid of them, clean your machine and recuperate the un-encrypted ones in that special folder. Sugarsync is the cloud storage I use and it provides it but it’s not free.
Leo
Actually there is a recovery method using OneDrive. I talk about it here: https://askleo.com/recovering-ransomware-online-backup/
Gerald Freed
A backup to the one drive can be provided since the local folder appears to be the same and any other. For years I have used Carbonite, which updates any files that have changed just like One Drive on the PC. It does so for the PC version of iCloud, too. I would think that a HD backup that includes the local files with supply the backup to “backup/sync” issue in a permanent manner. [BTW I had a major disk failure and recovered the “transient” One Drive and iCloud versions after I thought that the trashed files remaining on the HD would have corrupted the One Drive/iCloud/etc. Backup in depth since this was the first HD failure I had in over 30 years of personal computing on TRS 80, IBM PC, Dell and some scratch built PCs.]
David Tonks
Hi Leo
I’m surprised that your One Drive recommendation doesn’t mention the snails pace speed of transferring the files from my laptop to One Drive. In two days it’s transferred 1,000 of 16,000. 200+ comments on the One Drive website are unanimous that this snail’s pace is normal. Do you have a fix? Dave
Leo
My experience is that it’s the speed of the internet connection that’s always limited my transfers. Are you sure that’s not the issue? Otherwise it works quite quickly for me.
bradco
I”m in a medical-legal consulting work and have always kept client files (privacy protected) in My Documents on my PC. Documents folder is about 12 GB size. For years, I have used peer-to-peer syncing program (GoodSync) to sync My Documents between home office PC and a laptop– the files have always resided on these 2 hard drives only. This has been my only data “backup” method!
I’m interested in David Phipps method (above)… of “placing” his entire Documents folder in OneDrive… of course I would need to apply encryption to the cloud location. By configuring entire Documents folder into OneDrive, I would at least eliminate need for peer-to-peer syncing…. and have a cloud Documents backup. Is this feasible? What are pros and cons? Is there a knowledge article to do this? Thank you-
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
Leo and I use and recommend Cryptomator for keeping sensitive files on the cloud.
Leo
As well as BoxCryptor.
Leo
It can be done, but my preference is rather than move the “Documents” folder to OneDrive, just start using your own folder in OneDrive (or BoxCryptor into OneDrive). That gives you more control over what goes where without playing around with system settings.
bradco
Thank you very much for replies above. WD external drive is on it’s way to begin doing drive image backups with Easus !
Since I’m my own IT guy (untrained), I want to make sure I fully understand working on a folder with cases within OneDrive. In My Documents (the older name for Documents), I have one very active working folder filled with cases like a lawyer or social worker might have. There may be 20 subfolders in there — each is a different person–a case. I’m in there constantly, every day, jumping between several people in a day, doing things.
It appears like this in Explorer:
Documents
-Clients (Folder)
–Jane Smith (Sub folder)
–John Doe (Sub folder)
— (dozens more names in sub folders)
When you suggest “start using your own folder in OneDrive”, does this mean *move* my entire “Clients” folder into OneDrive ? –that is– break it away from Documents and drag it into OneDrive? Or… rather– I *copy* the Clients folder into OneDrive (with proper encryption)… but then, each day, I would have 2 versions of the Client folder, right?– one in OneDrive and one in Documents… ? Please clarify-
Thank you-!
Leo
First, it’s a MOVE. Meaning you’d have only one copy on your machine — in OneDrive. (That would be automatically replicated to the cloud, and also onto any other machines on which you have that OneDrive account enabled).
Second, given that it’s sensitive data I would recommend using something like BoxCryptor or Cryptomator to encrypt the data. That’s a little more conceptual work, but in the long run what it means is you would set up BoxCryptor to create drive (say) X: as the working drive. You would move your files to, and do your work in, X:\OneDrive\Whateverfoldersyoulike. They would be encrypted and stored in C:\Users\[yourlogin]\OneDrive\encryptedfoldername\encryptedfiles.
And as always, BACK UP FIRST. AND OFTEN. AND backup the UNencrypted files.
Andrew
Hi Leo,
So my account says I can have 6 users in my household with 1TB each with my annual Office365 account. There are only 2 of us living here. Will I be able to create some other accounts to take advantage of the 6TB if needed – say one for my photos, another for my wife’s photos, another to store videos, another to store old backup files, plus one each for my wife and me. Say one of the computers (say the photos computer) got stolen – then I would only need to log into the photos Microsoft account to retrieve them?
Leo
I believe so.
Mark Jacobs (Team Leo)
That should be possible. As for recovery, in case your computer is stolen or damaged, that should also work.