I forgot my password, and I want it back. I don’t want to reset it, I just
want [random online service] to tell me what it is so I don’t have to create a
new password. Why do they want to make me to reset the password when I just
want them to tell me what the password is?
They don’t know your password.
I’m dead serious. They don’t know your password, they didn’t store your
password, and they couldn’t tell you if they wanted to.
In fact, if they could tell you that means they’re doing security
wrong.
So how do they know you got your password right when you login? Well, they
do store something … it’s just not your password.
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It probably took longer to write the question than it would have to just reset the password!!!
[” Had the passwords not been stored, but instead a hash used, then the hacker would have next to nothing.”]
I beg the differ … It is a one way street in so many ways yes, but so many it isn’t. Depending on the power of you computer, the size of your rainbow tables, and the willing time, cracking 80% of a password database could be done within a few weeks. The 1st day would weed out approx. 50% due to the week dictionary passwords that a simple dictionary attack could crack.
29-Jul-2010
“They don’t know your password, they didn’t store your password, and they couldn’t tell you if they wanted to.”
I have been saying to anyone who’d listen, probably for 30 years, that this ought to be true. But to my consternation I’ve recently had proof that it isn’t, because http://www.guardian.co.uk actually emailed my password to me.
Admittedly, this is a free registration site, and doesn’t claim to be secure, but that’s not much of an excuse.
So Hey, let’s be careful out there!
03-Aug-2010
That’s really interesting and well explained. Thank you. But I’d be interested, and grateful, if you could take it a step further and explain what is going on with those sites (mostly banks, I find) that ask for (say) the 3rd, 5th and 10th character of your password, which cannot generate the same hash as the full password.
14-Aug-2010
There is a site called http://plaintextoffenders.com/ which names and shames this type of password insecurity.