I recently reformatted my laptop. Reinstalling Microsoft XP updates was
interminable! Can’t Microsoft find a better way?
I’m not exactly sure what better way you might have in mind. It’s a
difficult problem to solve. The older your initial copy of Windows, the more
updates that need to be applied to make it current – there’s not really a way
to avoid that.
I’ll look at one of the things you can do to skirt the problem, though.
I’ll also look at some of the things that Microsoft does to mitigate the
problem as well.
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“You can also perform this process, called “Slip Streaming”, to create a “Windows XP w/ SP2″ image from your vanilla XP CD and the monolithic SP2 download.” — How is this done??
Generally you use a utility program like nlite, http://www.nliteos.com. Though as usual Leo has the easier, cleaner solution with the full backup of your latest install, that way you can also install programs you know you’ll want as soon as you install and save even more time. just remember to install the newer updates next time you use that back up to reinstall and back that up.
Slipstreaming is actually most useful for us computer geeks who are routinely installing on different machines on a regular basis. If you are installing or reinstalling operating systems multiple times a week on random machines the time savings are phenomenal, if you’re reinstalling every few months to a year on the same computer the backup will save you more time.
I just wanted to add that owning a PC Repair business, I have to install some version of Windows, on at least one, if not many computers, every week. Microsoft offers all of it’s service packs for every version of Windows available for free download to anyone. It will come as a .iso (image) file which you can burn to CD with Image Burn (freeware) or a similar Image burning software (already included in Windows 7). You can also (1.) extract the .iso file to your Desktop using 7-Zip (freeware), Winzip, or some other compression tool. (2.) Find the icon Setup.exe (or Bootstrapper.exe) and run it. (3.) Just follow the onscreen directions. Don’t forget to restart your PC and defragment your hard drive. Installing from CD saves literally hours every time, especially if you have a slow internet connection.
Dave, I like your ideas better, but just what would I search for on Microsoft web site? Particular names? titles…etc? Downloading ISO files etc has got to be easier than ALL those packs, updates etc.
I had to rebuild recently and I went to the software site and downloaded the latest trial version for the software I owned but was not up to date. When it asked for the key, I used the key from my purchased copy maybe a service pack or two back. It seemed to work for most software and sped up reloading since I did not have to do all the updates.
If you just need to recover from a damaged or infected install Use drive imaging software such as Paragon Hard Disk Manager. Save several copies and youll never need to reinstall (any OS) unless you change your computer. My C: drive with about 12Gb of data takes about 10 min to backup and the same to restore.
Good article. What I do to help mitigate the installing of the patches/updates is to copy them to a separate file so that they are “on-hand” when the next clean install is performed. This drastically reduces the amount of “online” time to obtain the patches/updates; although, it still takes time to manually add these patches. There are, however, a few patches/updates that will require an online updating/acquisition. Secondly, BACK IT UP! I have had to use my backup(s) recently and it really did save my bacon! I use Acronis True Image. And, third, “slip-streaming”. The use of nLite. I have not used that app/util as yet. Maybe Leo can elaborate on nLite and how to use nLite. With nLite,you can have the OS and also include, or exclude, additional apps/utils and the patches/updates and do a single install; with the exception of the possibility of having to go online to get additional updates, etc. So, that’s my “two cents”. Take care.
Dear Leo/Readers
I am using Windows XP and if I had to make a choice between buying a Windows 7 and Acronis for image backup what would you recommend. I am limited in my resources presently so would like to choose one. Howsoever if both are indispensable please let me know.ie is Wind 7 somewhere close functionally to Acronis. Please let me have your comments. Thanks to all.
This is a question that seems easy to all of you but I’m struggling. My computer is old and just cranks away, it’s difficult to get online and takes the longest time. I was hoping to reinstall everything, but when I inserted the disk, nothing happened… I figured it would be easy 🙂 … I just might need a new computer but wanted to try to get this one working like it should, or close to it. Any and all help would be very appreciated. Molly
09-Jun-2010
It’s all well and good to say “Now, take a complete image backup of the system.”, but just how does one accomplish this? I’m supposing you mean just the Windows OS, but how do you back up just Windows, and all of its components, such that you could create a vanilla install of the OS?
I’m envisioning a crash. I need to start all over, creating the environment I have now. I have all of my installed application discs, I have my data backed up – what I need is the ‘vanilla’ OS backup you describe, to be used as my starting point. Just how do I go about creating this?
Somehow, I don’t think this question is as dumb as it sounds…
09-Jun-2010
I posted a reply to this sort of scenario in another question. Mirror software is fine and dandy, dandy and fine BUT some of them take longer than an original install. The solution that so far has served me gloriously well so far [ and Ive used it 3 times already ] is this ….
Get ‘Karens Power tools’ [ freeware ].
Now use replicator to replicate the following
1. The windows directory [ some things will not copy as they are being used and updated – no problem as they are an endemic part of the windows install; they will always be installed ]
2.The programs directory
3.The docs and settings directory
4. A recent and valid copy of the registry.
Now when you format and reinstall windows [XP]
and have the raw system; just copy back the above
and Bob’s your Auntie. System back like it never happened and all updates, changes funny bits with it.
‘IF IT WORKS, DON’T CHANGE IT’
I have to say that this observation isn’t just right. If you have the old copy of XP you can use “nLite” to add the updates (slipstream). In this way you get a installation disk that is most recent (including the newest critical updates, service packs, even drivers you need to a specific PC/Notebook configuration). Thank you for all.
10-Jun-2010
Is there any chance Microsoft will put out a Windows XP/SP4 update CD in the future.
It would be great if Microsoft created a new service pack version every year. That way people would be more likely to reinstall Windows XP yearly. Then just use the new service pack and a quick update to catch up on a few new patches. This probably would allow people to clear a lot of hidden malware from their computers, making the whole internet safer for everyone.
you can slipstream the cd to xp sp3, then burn a new installation cd, so you can just install once & not have to upgrade every time you do a new installation. And you don’t have to ask MS for the latest disc. See Slipstreaming XP to SP3 or Slipstreaming XP to SP2
Erm, + the fact that Microsoft throw’s 500 ton’s of garbage in that they call “high priority ” updates, look at Ubunto, Freeware, 1/10th the size of any Microsoft OS, DL’s AND install’s in minutes, and work’s just as well ( besides the fact that most software producer’s make their product’s Window’s exclusive, so you need to DL WINE to use a lot of games and stuff ).
MicroSoft could choose to do a better job by not adding all their statistic gathering files ( Spayware ) and other ” Priority” stuff ( they force feed you stuff like the Bing Bar, come on, tell me that’s needed, LOL.
Also Ubunto will detect your hardware and adapt, with MS product’s if using old computer’s or Old OS, you better go hunting down the driver’s and burn them first, or you can’t even get online.
MicroSoft does so bad, and does this stuff with their product’s because with all the software licenses they have, they figure 99 % of the masses don’t have the brain power to figure out other ways around it, so they simply don’t care and force feed you what they want to.
They could do 1000% better if they chose to, they simply do not care~~
10-Mar-2012