CCleaner is one of my utilities for periodic “tuning” of my PC, but in a
recent version upgrade, I discovered that in my haste, I had not looked at the
options in a drop box that give several choices of file deletion overwrites.
I have always used the simple overwrite (one pass), but I would be interested
to know if using CCleaner’s other pass options would significantly affect
either the time or the security of my computer. One pass, three, seven or
thirty five; is one or the other better? Or does it even matter?
For most folks, it doesn’t matter at all.
However, for a select few, it’s actually pretty important.
It all boils down to how important your data is, how likely it is that
someone else would want to access it, and how much effort (and money) they’re
willing to spend to get it.
The bottom line is that there’s deleting, and then there’s
DELETING.
I’ll explain what I mean.
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We usually describe it to our clients as “how paranoid are you”? Like you say in many of your other answers — “you’re just not that interesting”. (And most people just aren’t going to spend many thousands of dollars in forensic recovery just so they could steal a few hundred dollars from your PayPal account. Unless they know there’s something of value there in the first place, they’re not going to bother.)
Though I suppose you could extend your other saying here — “if it’s not physically destroyed, it’s not destroyed”. Yes, we’ve given old hard drives to our daughter, along with a sledge hammer and claw hammer, to “take care of” the situation. But, that was more for our daughter’s enjoyment than anything else.
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I have often wondered if the same applies to documents created using a memory stick or the CD drive. Is the document also left on the main hard drive, after all MS Word is on the main hard drive?
06-Mar-2012
What’s really important is to overwrite the disk before you throw it or give it away. Every few weeks I read of someone who bought a PC at a flea market and found all kinds of sensitive data on it from the previous owner.
I encrypt my sensitive data (e.g., passwords) while I’m using a disk and overwrite or degauss the disk when I dispose of it, e.g., use Darik’s Boot and Nuke.
Of course I spent my career in the classified world so it’s automatic for me.
I was under the impression that the study about the bulls-eye/leftover data thing was from the 1980s, when the hard drives were much less dense. Is it really still all that applicable today?
06-Mar-2012
I also use use CCleaner as described, and have done so for a number of years. Have not noticed excessive slowing down from 3 or even 7 passes. At the moment use 7, but after reading Leo’s article am considering going back to 3 !!!!. Have tested with Recova and all seems to be OK.
The “Bull’s-Eye” bit had not heard before but is very logical.
Ta again Leo for dealing with the more mundane bits of Computing.
Note that this article is valid only for HDD (hard disk drives), not for SSD (solid state drives). It is my understanding that with SSD, your only safe option is to encrypt the files in the first place.
06-Mar-2012
Overwriting to completely erasing old hard drive data. I have read different places that the government / military require 7 overwrites and then you could give the drive to someone that is interested in it’s data but there would be nothing left. Their requirement is 7 overwrites.
Here’s someone’s article suggesting that reading overwritten data hasn’t been established as at all practical, meaning that a single pass with a fixed pattern is as effective as multiple passes with random “data”, and much quicker, of course. However, he seems to talk only of lingering traces of the previous magnetisation, without any account of alignment differences. http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-gutmann.html
One other worry is when your disc remaps a sector because it found a bad bit somewhere in it. The original sector, with all you data excepting that odd bad bit, is then inaccessible from your operating system, and unaffected by any disc wiping you do from within it. However, there will be some way to read it, maybe with proprietary, low-level, commands, or else with physical intervention.
There is a particular problem with flash drives, which remap their storage to achieve some wear levelling.
Your text is very good. It “kills” a lot of doubts. It’s what I was lookin for! In portuguese, I didn’t find anything like yout text.
Thank you from Brazil